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fasisi
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 Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: beginning a natural language processing |
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Hello,
I have been reading natural language book and concluded that to start
a natural language processing of a language, I must analyze the
structure of the target language. So that I know the grammars and part
of speech. Is that right?
sincerely,
fasisi |
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Jason Adams
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: beginning a natural language processing |
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On Aug 17, 1:22 pm, fasisi <Frans.Indroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
I have been reading natural language book and concluded that to start
a natural language processing of a language, I must analyze the
structure of the target language. So that I know the grammars and part
of speech. Is that right?
sincerely,
fasisi
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It really depends on what you want to do with the language. There are
plenty of things you can do in NLP that never involve the grammar or
parts of speech. That said, knowing your data is rarely a bad idea. |
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Abhishek
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: beginning a natural language processing |
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On Aug 22, 5:24 pm, Jason Adams <jasonmad...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 17, 1:22 pm, fasisi <Frans.Indroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading natural language book and concluded that to start
a natural language processing of a language, I must analyze the
structure of the target language. So that I know the grammars and part
of speech. Is that right?
sincerely,
fasisi
It really depends on what you want to do with the language. There are
plenty of things you can do in NLP that never involve the grammar or
parts of speech. That said, knowing your data is rarely a bad idea.
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Hi,
This point raised by Jason has caught my attention.
May I know few things I could do without even understanding the
grammar and parts of speech of the
target language please?
That said, so can I process Chinese language now while I even don't
know how to read?
Thanks
With Regards,
Abhishek S |
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Ian Parker
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: Re: beginning a natural language processing |
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On Aug 24, 1:30 pm, Abhishek <abhisheksgum...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 22, 5:24 pm, Jason Adams <jasonmad...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:22 pm, fasisi <Frans.Indroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading natural language book and concluded that to start
a natural language processing of a language, I must analyze the
structure of the target language. So that I know the grammars and part
of speech. Is that right?
sincerely,
fasisi
It really depends on what you want to do with the language. There are
plenty of things you can do in NLP that never involve the grammar or
parts of speech. That said, knowing your data is rarely a bad idea.
Hi,
This point raised by Jason has caught my attention.
May I know few things I could do without even understanding the
grammar and parts of speech of the
target language please?
That said, so can I process Chinese language now while I even don't
know how to read?
Thanks
Information retrieval depends on key words not grammatical structure. |
If I want aricles on cosmology I will look for Relativity, Black Hole,
Inflation COBE etc. I don't want to know what they mean I just want to
know whether they are present or not.
In Chinese I don't think there is too much difficulty as the language
is not inflected. In Arabic you will need to know grammar in any event
since you will need to separate words from their stems. You will need
to search for stems.
- Ian Parker |
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Milind Joshi
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: beginning a natural language processing |
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On Aug 24, 8:30 am, Abhishek <abhisheksgum...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 22, 5:24 pm, Jason Adams <jasonmad...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:22 pm, fasisi <Frans.Indroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading natural language book and concluded that to start
a natural language processing of a language, I must analyze the
structure of the target language. So that I know the grammars and part
of speech. Is that right?
sincerely,
fasisi
It really depends on what you want to do with the language. There are
plenty of things you can do in NLP that never involve the grammar or
parts of speech. That said, knowing your data is rarely a bad idea.
Hi,
This point raised by Jason has caught my attention.
May I know few things I could do without even understanding the
grammar and parts of speech of the
target language please?
That said, so can I process Chinese language now while I even don't
know how to read?
Thanks
With Regards,
Abhishek S
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Abhishek,
it all depends on what you mean by "process Chinese language". Adding
to what Ian Parker said, keyword search & extraction, document
classification, raw/rough translation, document boundary separation,
paragraph/subject boundary identification, etc., are some tasks that
are based on statistical techniques and you don't necessarily need to
understand the language. That said, as Jason said, knowing your data,
or in this case, understanding your target language will only help you
know better if your statistical techniques worked and how well they
worked.
Regards,
Milind |
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Joseph Turian
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: beginning a natural language processing |
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| Quote: | It really depends on what you want to do with the language. There are
plenty of things you can do in NLP that never involve the grammar or
parts of speech. That said, knowing your data is rarely a bad idea.
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Additionally, Collobert and Weston (2008) have achieved state-of-the-
art accuracy on semantic role labelling, despite not using parse
trees:
http://www.kyb.tuebingen.mpg.de/bs/people/weston/papers/unified_nlp.pdf |
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Cameron Hughes
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: beginning a natural language processing |
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Milind Joshi wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 24, 8:30 am, Abhishek <abhisheksgum...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 5:24 pm, Jason Adams <jasonmad...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:22 pm, fasisi <Frans.Indroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading natural language book and concluded that to start
a natural language processing of a language, I must analyze the
structure of the target language. So that I know the grammars and part
of speech. Is that right?
sincerely,
fasisi
It really depends on what you want to do with the language. There are
plenty of things you can do in NLP that never involve the grammar or
parts of speech. That said, knowing your data is rarely a bad idea.
Hi,
This point raised by Jason has caught my attention.
May I know few things I could do without even understanding the
grammar and parts of speech of the
target language please?
That said, so can I process Chinese language now while I even don't
know how to read?
Thanks
With Regards,
Abhishek S
Abhishek,
it all depends on what you mean by "process Chinese language". Adding
to what Ian Parker said, keyword search & extraction, document
classification, raw/rough translation, document boundary separation,
paragraph/subject boundary identification, etc., are some tasks that
are based on statistical techniques and you don't necessarily need to
understand the language. That said, as Jason said, knowing your data,
or in this case, understanding your target language will only help you
know better if your statistical techniques worked and how well they
worked.
Regards,
Milind
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keyword search & extraction, document classification , boundary separation, and
some of the
other statistical techniques seem to belong more to text processing than
'natural language processing'
the notion that you can do 'Natural Language Processing' without processing
the natural language
just seems to be a bit odd. While natural language processing may include
text mining, not all text mining involves natural language processing. |
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