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Boll Weevil
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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Trying to do a costa analysis. I don't want to call a sales guy because you
know what happens if you do.
I am trying to get the latest street numbers for fibre and sata disks for a SAN
infrastructure. If you can shoot me a number off the top of your head, I'd
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Cydrome Leader
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Trying to do a costa analysis. I don't want to call a sales guy because you
know what happens if you do.
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You might get the information you are looking for? |
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Cydrome Leader
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:03:39 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
Trying to do a costa analysis. I don't want to call a sales guy because you
know what happens if you do.
You might get the information you are looking for?
You're either a sales guy or have never tried to price out a SAN.
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I'm not willing to sit though bullshit and and am not a pushover. When I
call sales people out, I ask the questions and they answer them or leave.
Is it rude? who cares, if you're on the paying side.
Call them out, tell he to save the stories for somebody else and to fillin
the blanks below or leave.
| Quote: | Fibre disk cost per MB ________________
SATA disk cost per MB ________________
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If they need to go back to the office to make a quote, that's fine too.
All those sales people have those prices memorized anyways. |
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Boll Weevil
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:03:39 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
Trying to do a costa analysis. I don't want to call a sales guy because you
know what happens if you do.
You might get the information you are looking for?
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You're either a sales guy or have never tried to price out a SAN.
Well, let me tell you what exactly happens. The sales guy will want to setup a
meeting with me. Then we wants documentation of my infrastructure with the
complete inventory of all my SAN equipment so he can see where all his sales
opportunities are. Then, he will ask me who the decision maker is after which
he will setup up a meeting with that person... maybe or not, I will be a part of
that discussion. Then he'll try to recommend an entirely new array while
telling me "you'll save a lot of money and we'll give you a great trade in
value". Then, he'll start to talk about professional services for
implementation and data migration. I am talking from experience and I have gone
through all of what I mentioned and some even worse.
All I am looking for is:
Fibre disk cost per MB ________________
SATA disk cost per MB ________________
boll weevil |
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Ed Wilts
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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On Aug 29, 9:57 am, Boll Weevil <washerdr...@maytag.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am trying to get the latest street numbers for fibre and sata disks for a SAN
infrastructure. If you can shoot me a number off the top of your head, I'd
appreciate it.
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The numbers are all over the board and it depends on how much you buy
and how much you want to expand to. It depends on if you are willing
to let your existing vendor be punted and who that vendor is. It
depends on what software you have added to that storage. You and I
could ask the same vendor and get very different answers. It depends
if you want to buy for capacity or performance. It depends if you buy
a low-end SAN from Nexsan or a high-end SAN from EMC - those 2 don't
compete on price.
I've gone through dozens of varying cost models and that's just based
on what we buy here.
You'll find some street price guides at http://storagemojo.com/category/price-guide/.
You'll need to know your part numbers though.
It's like asking for a street price for a new car. I can shoot you an
$18K figure because I drive a Saturn but my VP will give you a
different figure because he drives a Jag and $18K will only get you a
steering wheel. |
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Faeandar
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: Re: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:00:07 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:03:39 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
Trying to do a costa analysis. I don't want to call a sales guy because you
know what happens if you do.
You might get the information you are looking for?
You're either a sales guy or have never tried to price out a SAN.
I'm not willing to sit though bullshit and and am not a pushover. When I
call sales people out, I ask the questions and they answer them or leave.
Is it rude? who cares, if you're on the paying side.
Call them out, tell he to save the stories for somebody else and to fillin
the blanks below or leave.
Fibre disk cost per MB ________________
SATA disk cost per MB ________________
If they need to go back to the office to make a quote, that's fine too.
All those sales people have those prices memorized anyways.
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He's right. When a sales rep gets all EMC'y on me I just start to
show him/her the door. They usually come back to the
customer/supplier relationship pretty quick.
Twice it's not worked, and they went out the door in which they came.
Not a problem since there were 3 other vendors waiting for the chance.
In fact, you need to put out an RFQ so you have something solid to
bind them to when the time comes to purchase.
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kc
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: SAN cost per MB........... Fibre and SATA disks? |
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Raid-5? Raid-6? Raid-DP? Raid-1? Raid-10?
Direct attach or SAN-attach?
2x Redundancy all the way down, or SPOF?
DR site?
99.999% availablility?
That'll all have to be factored into the final price... That's why they want
a meeting, and they should get one.
Else you'd end up with a poorly-designed solution which doesn't suit your
needs...
That's why they get the big bucks right? Make them do some work for it :-D
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| Quote: | On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:03:39 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Boll Weevil <washerdryer@maytag.com> wrote:
Trying to do a costa analysis. I don't want to call a sales guy because
you
know what happens if you do.
You might get the information you are looking for?
You're either a sales guy or have never tried to price out a SAN.
Well, let me tell you what exactly happens. The sales guy will want to
setup a
meeting with me. Then we wants documentation of my infrastructure with
the
complete inventory of all my SAN equipment so he can see where all his
sales
opportunities are. Then, he will ask me who the decision maker is after
which
he will setup up a meeting with that person... maybe or not, I will be a
part of
that discussion. Then he'll try to recommend an entirely new array while
telling me "you'll save a lot of money and we'll give you a great trade in
value". Then, he'll start to talk about professional services for
implementation and data migration. I am talking from experience and I
have gone
through all of what I mentioned and some even worse.
All I am looking for is:
Fibre disk cost per MB ________________
SATA disk cost per MB ________________
boll weevil
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