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krasicki
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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| Thank god the industry doesn't rush into things. |
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Mike Schilling
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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"Patrick May" <pjm@spe.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | tgm1024@hotmail.com writes:
Robert C. Martin wrote:
This isn't a slam against Java; I think Java is very cool. But
Java is not THE answer. Nor is it an unqualified improvement over
C++. It is just another interesting language. Thats all.
chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the
answer and is an unqualified improvement over C++.
Actually, Mr. Martin is entirely correct when he states that Java
is not an unqualified improvement over C++. Where he is incorrect is
in claiming that Java is interesting.
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It's not even original; most of Java is stolen from C#. |
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toby
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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| Please substantiate. |
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Morten Alver
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: OT: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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| Quote: | chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the answer
and is an unqualified improvement over C++.
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Is it a bad sign when I find myself wondering where the </chuckle> tag is?
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krasicki
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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| Didn't you read "The Road Ahead"? C'mon. |
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Thomas G. Marshall
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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Jimmy Cerra coughed up:
| Quote: | Robert C. Martin wrote:
This isn't a slam against Java; I think Java is very cool. But
Java is not THE answer. Nor is it an unqualified improvement over
C++. It is just another interesting language. Thats all.
tgm1024@hotmail.com wrote:
chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the answer
and is an unqualified improvement over C++.
You're replying to a post over seven years ago! Are you trying to
start a flame war? -- Jimmy Cerra
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AH HA. SOMEONE GOT IT!
I was wondering if anyone was going to remember this uber-thread of yore.
Man, "those were the days", ;)
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Mike Schilling
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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"toby" <toby@telegraphics.com.au> wrote in message
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(It was a joke.) |
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Robert C. Martin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:19:55 GMT, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote:
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"Patrick May" <pjm@spe.com> wrote in message
news:m2brby1fn2.fsf@gulch.intamission.com...
tgm1024@hotmail.com writes:
Robert C. Martin wrote:
This isn't a slam against Java; I think Java is very cool. But
Java is not THE answer. Nor is it an unqualified improvement over
C++. It is just another interesting language. Thats all.
chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the
answer and is an unqualified improvement over C++.
Actually, Mr. Martin is entirely correct when he states that Java
is not an unqualified improvement over C++. Where he is incorrect is
in claiming that Java is interesting.
It's not even original; most of Java is stolen from C#.
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The Ghost In The Machine
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Mike Schilling
<mscottschilling@hotmail.com>
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on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:19:55 GMT
<f8pEd.347$8Z1.160@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>:
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"Patrick May" <pjm@spe.com> wrote in message
news:m2brby1fn2.fsf@gulch.intamission.com...
tgm1024@hotmail.com writes:
Robert C. Martin wrote:
This isn't a slam against Java; I think Java is very cool. But
Java is not THE answer. Nor is it an unqualified improvement over
C++. It is just another interesting language. Thats all.
chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the
answer and is an unqualified improvement over C++.
Actually, Mr. Martin is entirely correct when he states that Java
is not an unqualified improvement over C++. Where he is incorrect is
in claiming that Java is interesting.
It's not even original; most of Java is stolen from C#.
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An interesting notion. Did McNealy have a time machine or something?
:-)
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Rod Davison
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:02 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake (oh puleez) |
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Overheard:
"Programming with C is like using a sharp knife with no handle. C++ has
made the knife much sharper. Java glued the knife in the sheath."
Whether this is good or bad depends on your biases. Remember that those
who sell short, an increase in th eprice of a stock they hold is a
bad thing.
Programming languages are apolitical (with the exception of a short lived
Berkly commentary on BSD in the 70s which went something like "There is no
wheel group in BSD because this creates a bourgeoisie set of class
distinction between users. Unix is a non-fascist operating system."
By the way, if anyone still has the original of th eabove quote, I would
love to hear from you!!
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:04:43 -0800, tgm102 wrote:
| Quote: | Robert C. Martin wrote:
...[rip]...
This isn't a slam against Java; I think Java is very cool. But Java
is
not THE answer. Nor is it an unqualified improvement over C++. It
is
just another interesting language. Thats all.
chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the answer and
is an unqualified improvement over C++.
...[rip]...
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I put instant coffee in a microwave and almost went back in time. -- Steven Wright
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krasicki
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake |
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| Not in Seattle! |
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Boudewijn Dijkstra
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:21 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake (oh puleez) |
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"Rod Davison" <critsys@rogers.remove.com> schreef in bericht
news:pan.2005.01.10.19.02.24.396627@rogers.remove.com...
| Quote: | Overheard:
"Programming with C is like using a sharp knife with no handle. C++ has
made the knife much sharper. Java glued the knife in the sheath."
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How about: Java surrounded the knife with a maze. |
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The Ghost In The Machine
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:01 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake (oh puleez) |
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In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Rod Davison
<critsys@rogers.remove.com>
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on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:02:34 -0500
<pan.2005.01.10.19.02.24.396627@rogers.remove.com>:
| Quote: | Overheard:
"Programming with C is like using a sharp knife with no handle. C++ has
made the knife much sharper. Java glued the knife in the sheath."
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One wonders what C# did. :-)
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Whether this is good or bad depends on your biases. Remember that those
who sell short, an increase in th eprice of a stock they hold is a
bad thing.
Programming languages are apolitical (with the exception of a short lived
Berkly commentary on BSD in the 70s which went something like "There is no
wheel group in BSD because this creates a bourgeoisie set of class
distinction between users. Unix is a non-fascist operating system."
By the way, if anyone still has the original of th eabove quote, I would
love to hear from you!!
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An odd comment considering that "root" is absolute dictator. :-)
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:04:43 -0800, tgm102 wrote:
Robert C. Martin wrote:
...[rip]...
This isn't a slam against Java; I think Java is very cool. But Java
is
not THE answer. Nor is it an unqualified improvement over C++. It
is
just another interesting language. Thats all.
chuckle>. You are correct in every way, except Java /is/ the answer and
is an unqualified improvement over C++.
...[rip]...
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Mike Schilling
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake (oh puleez) |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
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| Quote: | In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Rod Davison
critsys@rogers.remove.com
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on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:02:34 -0500
pan.2005.01.10.19.02.24.396627@rogers.remove.com>:
Overheard:
"Programming with C is like using a sharp knife with no handle. C++ has
made the knife much sharper. Java glued the knife in the sheath."
One wonders what C# did. 
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Painted the sheath, which had previously been brown, light brown. |
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Jörn W. Janneck
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Avoiding the second historic mistake (oh puleez) |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
message news:065bb2-r2f.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net...
| Quote: | In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Rod Davison
critsys@rogers.remove.com
wrote
on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:02:34 -0500
pan.2005.01.10.19.02.24.396627@rogers.remove.com>:
Overheard:
"Programming with C is like using a sharp knife with no handle. C++ has
made the knife much sharper. Java glued the knife in the sheath."
One wonders what C# did.
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it took the glued knife in the sheath, sharpened part of the sheath, and
spray painted the whole thing with glitter paint. then, ms patented it.
;-)
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